Legislature(2009 - 2010)BARNES 124

01/22/2009 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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08:02:52 AM Overview: Department of Commerce, Community, & Economic Development
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Presentation by Commissioner Emil Notti &
Dep. Commissioner Michael Black
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                        January 22, 2009                                                                                        
                           8:01 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Herron, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Cathy Engstrom Munoz, Co-Chair                                                                                   
Representative Wes Keller                                                                                                       
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Harris                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY, & ECONOMIC                                                                         
DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
EMIL NOTTI, Commissioner                                                                                                        
Department of Commerce, Community, & Economic Development                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of the Department of                                                                
Commerce, Community, & Economic Development.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL BLACK, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Commerce, Community, & Economic Development                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of the Department of                                                                
Commerce, Community, & Economic Development.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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8:01:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  CATHY ENGSTROM  MUNOZ  called the  House Community  and                                                             
Regional  Affairs Standing  Committee  meeting to  order at  8:01                                                               
a.m.  Representatives Munoz, Herron,  Keller, Millet, and Gardner                                                               
were  present  at  the  call to  order.    Representative  Cissna                                                               
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:02:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MUNOZ introduced support staff to the committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Overview:   Department  of   Commerce,  Community,   &  Economic                                                             
Development                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:03:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MUNOZ  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                               
be  an overview  from the  Department of  Commerce, Community,  &                                                               
Economic Development (DCCED).   She reviewed Commissioner Notti's                                                               
background, including  that he served  as the first  president of                                                               
the Alaska Federation of Natives (AFN)  and was a major player in                                                               
the establishment of the state's Native corporations.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:04:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMIL NOTTI,  Commissioner, Department  of Commerce,  Community, &                                                               
Economic Development (DCCED),  began by relating that  DCCED is a                                                               
diverse department that  touches the lives of many  Alaskans on a                                                               
great many issues.   In fact, the mission of  DCCED is to promote                                                               
a healthy economy and strong  communities.  The aforementioned is                                                               
accomplished   by  regulating   existing   industry  to   protect                                                               
consumers  and  to help  create  a  stable business  climate,  by                                                               
assisting    local   governments    with   self-governance    and                                                               
sustainability  training,  and  by coordinating,  promoting,  and                                                               
developing  economic  growth  of  new  or  expanding  businesses.                                                               
Commissioner Notti then  informed the committee that  a number of                                                               
independent agencies  report through DCCED as  their budgets flow                                                               
through DCCED.   The  department consists, he  opined, of  a very                                                               
talented  and dedicated  group of  division directors.   He  then                                                               
specified the  divisions within DCCED  and the six  agencies that                                                               
report through  DCCED.  The department  also has a seat  on or is                                                               
highly involved  in the boards  of 23 commissions.   Commissioner                                                               
Notti then highlighted  that he has two  position control numbers                                                               
(PCNs) for deputy commissioners, but  only one position is funded                                                               
and filled.   He said that he needs both  positions to be filled.                                                               
Last  year,   when  there  were  two   deputy  commissioners  one                                                               
addressed rural Alaskan communities.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:08:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  NOTTI,  in   response  to  Representative  Gardner,                                                               
clarified  that  DCCED  has  two   PCN  numbers  for  the  deputy                                                               
commissioner  position,  but  has  only received  funds  for  one                                                               
position  and  thus  only one  deputy  commissioner  position  is                                                               
filled.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:09:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI,  continuing his overview, told  the committee                                                               
that the  department has office  locations throughout  the state.                                                               
He then reviewed  the divisions and their  responsibilities.  The                                                               
Division   of  Administrative   Services  provides   professional                                                               
services  for   the  department   and  is  responsible   for  the                                                               
department's  budget issues,  procurement, and  property control.                                                               
A  large  part of  the  Division  of Administrative  Services  is                                                               
information  technology,  which  keeps the  division  very  busy.                                                               
Furthermore, the  Division of Administrative Services  works with                                                               
the Office of Management &  Budget regarding the audits for which                                                               
the  division   receives  requests.    Commissioner   Notti  then                                                               
informed the committee that Serve  Alaska was established in 1994                                                               
to establish  the state's ability to  receive AmeriCorps funding.                                                               
AmeriCorps  volunteers  perform  a   great  number  of  projects,                                                               
including development  projects for  young Alaskans such  as life                                                               
skills,  job  readiness,  or  education.    Moreover,  AmeriCorps                                                               
addresses the needs  of rural Alaska through  health projects and                                                               
environmental youth  development.   AmeriCorps also does  a large                                                               
amount of  work to meet  Alaska's social needs,  including prison                                                               
re-entry,  domestic violence,  and drug  and alcohol  dependency.                                                               
He  informed  the committee  that  in  the last  year  AmeriCorps                                                               
volunteers  served 275,400  volunteer  hours.   In fact,  through                                                               
AmeriCorps'   educational  opportunities   373  people   received                                                               
general  equivalency diplomas  (GEDs).   During March  1994-March                                                               
2008 there have  been 2,558 AmeriCorps members  who have provided                                                               
$3.2 million worth of service.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  NOTTI then  turned  to the  Division  of Banking  &                                                               
Securities,  which  provides  oversight of  the  state's  banking                                                               
institutions of which there are 71  in the state that are subject                                                               
to  regulation  by  the  division.     Last  year,  the  division                                                               
conducted  examinations of  more than  half of  the institutions.                                                               
By state law,  each institution is required to  be examined every                                                               
18 months.   Due to investigations into  licensed activities, the                                                               
division acquired  a refund of  approximately $10,000  in finance                                                               
charges.  This past year  the division approved four new licenses                                                               
to conduct pay day lending,  four new licenses to conduct premium                                                               
finance  business  in   Alaska.    The  Division   of  Banking  &                                                               
Securities enforces the Alaska Securities  Act and the associated                                                               
regulations.     The   enforcement  functions   include  handling                                                               
complaints   and  investigations   of  registered   entities  and                                                               
regulated  offerings   as  well  as   investigating  unregistered                                                               
activities/scams.  The primary mission  of the Securities section                                                               
of the  division is  to protect  Alaska residents  from financial                                                               
harm.   Commissioner Notti highlighted  that in fiscal  year 2008                                                               
the division generated over $13  million in revenue with a budget                                                               
of  about  $2  million.    As  is  the  case  with  most  of  the                                                               
department, this  division is funded by  fees to it.   He pointed                                                               
out that the division conducted  over 50 security investigations,                                                               
which  are  turned over  to  the  attorney  general if  laws  are                                                               
broken.   The division's job  is to protect investors  and Native                                                               
shareholders.  One of the  largest investigations occurred due to                                                               
the failure  of auction rate  securities.  The  division received                                                               
complaints totaling almost  $100 million in invested  funds.  The                                                               
Division  of Banking  & Securities  has oversight  of the  Alaska                                                               
Native  Claims Settlement  Act  (ANCSA)  corporations, which  are                                                               
required  to send  annual reports  to  the state.   The  division                                                               
investigated  35 complaints,  implemented the  following two  new                                                               
laws including  the Alaska Mortgage Rate  Lending Regulation Act,                                                               
which  licenses and  examines  regulated mortgages,  originators,                                                               
brokers,  and   lenders.    The   other  new  law   the  division                                                               
implemented is the Alaska Uniform Money Services Act.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:17:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  NOTTI moved  on to  the Division  of Community  and                                                               
Regional  Affairs,   which  addresses  rural  Alaska   and  local                                                               
government.  This division, through  the Rural Utilities Business                                                               
Advisor (RUBA) Program, performs a  lot of rural training for the                                                               
management of water and sewer  systems as well as record keeping.                                                               
Last year  the [RUBA Program]  made 182 trips to  172 communities                                                               
for a  total of 470  days of onsite  assistance for the  areas of                                                               
utility management,  financial management, personnel  issues, and                                                               
election and adoption of ordinances.   Within the division is the                                                               
Local  Boundary  Commission  (LBC),   which  incorporated  a  new                                                               
borough  in  Wrangell  and performed  an  annexation  within  the                                                               
Ketchikan Gateway Borough.   He noted that  the aforementioned is                                                               
accomplished by the  LBC and its small staff.   The [division] is                                                               
also responsible, due to the  requirement of village corporations                                                               
to give  land to communities.   When land claims pass,  those who                                                               
are on  the land  receive the  land at no  cost.   The department                                                               
does the  mapping of the aforementioned.   One of the  big things                                                               
the  department  does  is  deals  with  grants.    In  fact,  the                                                               
department has over  900 grants in various  stages of completion,                                                               
which  amount to  close to  over $1  million in  state money  for                                                               
projects across the state.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:19:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  NOTTI  continued  by  addressing  the  Division  of                                                               
Corporations,   Business   and  Professional   Licensing,   which                                                               
implemented the Alaska Mortgage  Licensing and Regulation Act and                                                               
Prescription Drug  Monitoring Project.  The  division licenses 39                                                               
professional  occupation  programs  and  regulates  over  100,000                                                               
individuals, businesses, and corporations  that offer services in                                                               
the  state.   Commissioner  Notti then  turned  attention to  the                                                               
Division  of  Insurance,  which licenses  Alaska-based  insurance                                                               
companies and  provides oversight  of agents for  compliance with                                                               
Alaska  Statutes.    The [division]  enforces  the  statutes  and                                                               
regulations   and   conducts   the  examinations   of   insurance                                                               
companies/agencies.  The Financial  Reports and Audits compliance                                                               
section  performs financial  reports  and  audits, which  enforce                                                               
statutes and  regulations on  tax and  surplus lines  and collect                                                               
premium  tax  revenue for  the  state.    In 2007  54  fraudulent                                                               
insurance cases  were investigated.   Since 2006 there  have been                                                               
eight criminal  investigations.   Commissioner Notti  opined that                                                               
the  division  does a  lot  of  public  outreach to  inform  [the                                                               
public]  of   its  rights  and   prevent  fraud   from  insurance                                                               
companies.     There  are  over   20  investigators   within  the                                                               
department.  Commissioner Notti then  moved on to the Division of                                                               
Investments,  which  is very  active  in  providing low  interest                                                               
loans  to upgrade  diesel  engines  in the  fishing  fleet in  an                                                               
attempt  to  reduce  carbon  emissions.   He  recalled  that  the                                                               
Division of  Investments has  performed about  170 audits  on the                                                               
fishing fleets  to determine the  amount of carbon placed  in the                                                               
atmosphere during  the fishing process.   Last year  the division                                                               
began  making  loans to  pilots  for  the upgrade  of  navigation                                                               
equipment,  which  has reduced  the  accident  rate in  Southeast                                                               
Alaska  by almost  47  percent.   He related  that  based on  the                                                               
state's  commitment  to  make low  interest  loans  available  to                                                               
airplane  owners,  the   Federal  Aviation  Administration  (FAA)                                                               
committed over $400  million of equipment.  He  noted that [these                                                               
loans to pilots  for navigation equipment upgrades  is a Capstone                                                               
program, from  which early  numbers indicate  that it's  good for                                                               
safety.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:24:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   NOTTI  moved   on  to   the  Office   of  Economic                                                               
Development,  which publishes  reports  on economic  performance,                                                               
net rate  of return  on industries,  the Alaska  mineral industry                                                               
report,  Alaska logging  history, and  Society of  Foresters, and                                                               
the  Alaska  Film Office.    The  Alaska  Film Office  will  give                                                               
rebates to  those companies that  come to Alaska to  make movies.                                                               
The rebates  are allowed over the  course of the next  five years                                                               
and  the Alaska  Film  Office is  authorized  to provide  rebates                                                               
totaling  $100  million.   Commissioner  Notti  related that  the                                                               
Office  of  Economic  Development also  addresses  rural  tourism                                                               
training.   He then noted that  there are now 12  Alaska Regional                                                               
Development  Organizations   (ARDORs),  each  of   which  receive                                                               
$57,000 annually.  The aforementioned  funds are matched by local                                                               
communities;  the  notion  is  that   ARDORs  look  for  business                                                               
opportunities and training in rural  Alaska.  He pointed out that                                                               
the Office  of Economic Development  monitors the Made  in Alaska                                                               
program and offers a small business assistance center.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:26:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  then reviewed  the independent  agencies that                                                               
report to  DCCED, which include the  Alaska Aerospace Development                                                               
Corporation,  Alaska Energy  Authority  (AEA), Alaska  Industrial                                                               
Development  and   Export  Authority  (AIDEA),   Alaska  Railroad                                                               
Corporation  (ARRC), Alaska  Seafood Marketing  Institute (ASMI),                                                               
Serve   Alaska   [formerly   Alaska   State   Community   Service                                                               
Commission],  and  Regulatory Commission  of  Alaska  (RCA).   He                                                               
related  that   the  main  functions  of   the  Alaska  Aerospace                                                               
Development  Corporation  are  located  in Kodiak.    The  Alaska                                                               
Aerospace Development Corporation brings  in mainly federal funds                                                               
through contracts  for launches.   This  year the  corporation is                                                               
requesting  funds to  construct a  second  launch pad.   He  then                                                               
informed  the  committee  that AIDEA  provides  loans  that  were                                                               
originated  by banks,  which put  forth  10 percent  of the  loan                                                               
while AIDEA puts forth 90 percent.   One of the large projects in                                                               
which AIDEA is  involved is the Red Dog Mine.   He mentioned that                                                               
about $300 million  is invested in that project.   He pointed out                                                               
that AIDEA  takes risks that banks  wouldn't.  He noted  that the                                                               
committee should  have copies  of AEA's  detailed plan,  which he                                                               
characterized  as   a  historical   document  that's   the  first                                                               
compilation  of all  the  data for  every  village or  community.                                                               
With regard  to the ARRC,  he noted that  there is concern  as to                                                               
whether  the  Flint  Hills  refinery  will  shutdown  because  it                                                               
represents about  30 percent of  the revenue  for ARRC.   He then                                                               
turned to  ASMI, which produces impressive  publications that are                                                               
distributed  worldwide.     The  statistics  relate   that  these                                                               
publications  have enhanced  the price  of Alaska  salmon in  the                                                               
market.   In closing, Commissioner  Notti reiterated  how diverse                                                               
DCCED is.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:31:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON asked  if Commissioner Notti could  share what he                                                               
knows about the situation in Emmonak.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  NOTTI  informed  the committee  that  current  laws                                                               
don't allow  DCCED to declare  an economic emergency  because the                                                               
level of  economic income  hasn't been impacted  to the  point at                                                               
which  an economic  emergency can  be declared.   However,  other                                                               
things can  be done as  illustrated [by the efforts]  through the                                                               
Division of  Military Affairs, [Department  of Labor  & Workforce                                                               
Development],  and the  [Department of]  Education.   Last Friday                                                               
[department   staff]  spent   two   hours  on   the  phone   with                                                               
communities,  Tuesday  morning a  team  flew  out to  Bethel  and                                                               
Emmonak.    He said  he  expected  the  first written  report  on                                                               
Friday, which he  offered to make available.   Commissioner Notti                                                               
explained that  although the king  salmon fishery was a  bust and                                                               
the income level dropped, it  wasn't enough to impact the overall                                                               
income level.   He opined that  it's not an income  level problem                                                               
as that hasn't changed for years,  rather the problem is when the                                                               
price of  oil went to  $144 per barrel  and thus food,  fuel, and                                                               
transportation costs rose.   He recalled anecdotes  that those in                                                               
the Emmonak area were paying $7 for  a gallon of milk and $12 for                                                               
two hotdogs.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:35:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  asked if the  situation in Emmonak is  "a canary                                                               
in a coal mine" as there  are likely such difficulties related to                                                               
high energy costs in all regions of the state.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  acknowledged that the cost  of energy impacts                                                               
everyone.  Furthermore,  low cost energy and  a trained workforce                                                               
is necessary for economic development  and to be competitive in a                                                               
world  market.    Moreover,  [communities]   don't  have  a  good                                                               
transportation system unless situated by water.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:37:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  inquired as  to the  commissioner's take  on the                                                               
situations in Healy, Fairbanks, and Homer.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  said that  the Healy  clean coal  project has                                                               
been a problem for the state  for probably 10 years and the state                                                               
has  a fair  amount of  money in  the project.   He  related that                                                               
AIDEA made  it a goal to  solve the problem and  has been working                                                               
intensely  on it  for the  past year.   There's  an agreement  in                                                               
place,  but it  will take  approximately  six months  to get  the                                                               
plant  running.   Although the  [Healy clean  coal project]  will                                                               
solve  some  of the  difficulties,  there  will still  be  energy                                                               
problems  in  the  Railbelt  area.     He  highlighted  that  the                                                               
generating  capacity  is  old  and  needs  to  be  replaced,  and                                                               
therefore any energy,  especially of the natural  gas sort, would                                                               
be helpful.  He noted that four  miles west of Nenana the plan is                                                               
to drill  10,000 feet in  the hope of  finding natural gas.   The                                                               
plan is to generate 150 megawatts  to feed Fairbanks and south of                                                               
Anchorage.  He mentioned that  the study about the six generating                                                               
companies that feed the market will be released soon.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:41:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA commented that  the effects of energy costs                                                               
to  Alaska are  profound  and many  departments  have to  address                                                               
those effects.   She then inquired  as to the effort  of DCCED to                                                               
work in a  network pattern.  She recalled  hearing predictions of                                                               
the many public health problems due  to high energy costs and the                                                               
sharing of houses, for example.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  NOTTI related  that  DCCED's  primary effort  comes                                                               
through its  seat on the  board of  directors for AEA  and AIDEA.                                                               
Furthermore, the department gathers  information and compares the                                                               
cost  of  energy and  fuel  throughout  Alaska.   The  department                                                               
encourages groups  to purchase fuel  in bulk, when possible.   In                                                               
fact,  the  community  development  quota  (CDQ)  group  in  Nome                                                               
guarantees  payment on  the  loan to  the  shipper/seller of  the                                                               
fuel.   As  a result,  the  fuel costs  last year  for those  who                                                               
purchased [via  the CDQ program] and  in bulk paid $1  per gallon                                                               
less.    Therefore,  the department  encourages  groups  to  form                                                               
cooperatives to purchase  fuel in bulk.  He  then highlighted the                                                               
pressure  the suppliers  experience because  they're required  to                                                               
make  payment on  the fuel  the supplier  obtains, and  therefore                                                               
they need  immediate payment.  The  aforementioned highlights the                                                               
need for  good credit and  that part of  the reason for  the high                                                               
cost is  the losses that  have to  be covered.   Guaranteed loans                                                               
would help,  he opined.   The state  has two  programs, including                                                               
the  low cost  loans  AEA/AIDEA provides  to  purchase bulk  fuel                                                               
twice a year.  The villages have  to have a good credit rating to                                                               
take  advantage of  the aforementioned  low cost  loans.   If the                                                               
villages can't pass the credit  test, they can approach DCCED for                                                               
a zero interest loan.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:46:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  surmised then  that DCCED is  working with                                                               
the local communities.   She then related  her understanding that                                                               
regional centers are facing an  influx of rural residents who are                                                               
competent  and  have the  skill  sets  needed  to run  the  local                                                               
governments.      She   asked   if  anyone   is   reviewing   the                                                               
aforementioned.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  agreed that it's  a serious problem  and that                                                               
the expectation is the crisis isn't  over.  With regard to health                                                               
problems,  the director  of the  Yukon Kuskokwim  Corporation has                                                               
expressed concern as to the results  of people who don't follow a                                                               
proper diet.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:49:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  recalled  that last  August  during  the                                                               
$1,200 energy  rebate debate, rural legislators  pointed out that                                                               
the state  was heading toward a  crisis.  Part of  the discussion                                                               
was whether it  was better to give $1,200 to  every Alaskan or to                                                               
invest those funds in avoiding  crises throughout the state.  She                                                               
inquired as to  whether things could've been  done differently or                                                               
whether there is new information  or something that could've been                                                               
changed between last August and now.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  NOTTI answered  that  he wasn't  aware of  anything                                                               
that could've  been done  differently.  He  pointed out  that the                                                               
state is spending a lot of  money on low interest loans [in rural                                                               
areas]  and  zero interest  loans.    Still,  there's a  risk  to                                                               
sellers  of  fuel.   Once  all  the  facts are  available,  ideas                                                               
regarding  how   to  distribute   fuel  will  come   forward,  he                                                               
predicted.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:52:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER then  turned the discussion to  the use of                                                               
renewable energy sources.  One  benefit or renewable energy usage                                                               
is  that it  creates jobs  and  cash income  in communities  that                                                               
don't   have  much.      With  regard   to   the  RUBA   program,                                                               
Representative  Gardner asked  if  DCCED anticipates  use of  the                                                               
existing   program   to   train    new   people   for   the   new                                                               
projects/utilities.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  remarked that he hadn't  really thought about                                                               
what would  occur in the future,  but characterized it as  a good                                                               
template.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    GARDNER   asked    if    there's   a    problem                                                               
determining/clarifying  who has  responsibility for  training and                                                               
maintaining a  project.   She asked,  specifically, if  the state                                                               
maintains the  responsibility [for  training and  maintaining the                                                               
project] throughout the  life of the project or is  there a point                                                               
at which the local community takes over.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  NOTTI related  his understanding  that when  a city                                                               
takes ownership, it's  the city's responsibility.   The state, he                                                               
further  related,  wants  to avoid  returning  to  grant  another                                                               
project.   Therefore, it's in  the state's interest to  spend the                                                               
money on  training and  hope the  cities take  over.   The larger                                                               
communities, such as  Nome, Kotzebue, and Bethel,  do fairly well                                                               
because there is a large enough population base to do so.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER surmised  then  that  the template  isn't                                                               
really effective  in regard  to cities  taking over.   Therefore,                                                               
she suggested that the state should do something to shift that.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:55:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  related  that  Mr.  Haagenson  has  some                                                               
interesting ideas about  hedging fuel buys in  order to stabilize                                                               
fuel costs in  Alaska.  She asked if there  has been any movement                                                               
toward that.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  acknowledged that  there has  been discussion                                                               
of such,  although he didn't know  of any plans to  implement it.                                                               
The  situation,  he  opined,  comes down  to  a  workable  credit                                                               
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:56:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON said that he  has several questions that he could                                                               
format in  a list to  which the  commissioner can respond  to the                                                               
committee.    He  then  recalled that  the  commissioner  of  the                                                               
Department of Environmental Conservation  (DEC) told him that the                                                               
present stimulus package for DEC is  about $81 million.  He asked                                                               
if Commissioner Notti knew the  amount coming from DEC's stimulus                                                               
package to DCCED.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  answered that he  doesn't know.   However, he                                                               
recalled seeing  that DEC was  going to release $350  million for                                                               
community  development block  grants,  which  would come  through                                                               
DCCED.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:58:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  requested detail regarding the  status of                                                               
the prescription drug monitoring program.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI deferred that question.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:58:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GARDNER,   regarding   Capstone,   related   her                                                               
understanding that Alaska was initially  a pilot program, but the                                                               
federal government  ultimately told  the state  it would  have to                                                               
[fund it]  in order  for it to  continue.  The  state did  so and                                                               
provided  some low  cost loans  and some  infrastructure for  the                                                               
receiving  segments.   She asked  if  anything else  needs to  be                                                               
done.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  opined that  the FAA is  committed to  do it,                                                               
and  he didn't  believe  it has  any  plans to  change  it.   The                                                               
program  is  working, although  the  amount  of applications  for                                                               
loans that was desired wasn't received.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:00:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER, recalling the  Red Dog, Skagway dock, and                                                               
the Ketchikan  shipyard, asked  if, due  to the  recession, there                                                               
have already been slow downs in the aforementioned projects.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  NOTTI  said  that  the  predictions  are  that  the                                                               
activities  at  the  ore  dock  in Skagway  will  increase.    In                                                               
Ketchikan, there's  a contract to  do some building, and  thus he                                                               
projected more work.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:01:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MUNOZ  turned attention  to the power  cost equalization                                                               
(PCE) program.   She asked if  DCCED has a position  on extending                                                               
PCE  to  businesses  until  a  community  can  be  tied  into  an                                                               
alternative source of energy.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI specified that  although the department hasn't                                                               
taken  a position  on it,  his personal  view is  that it  should                                                               
happen.   The businesses,  he opined, need  the break  to survive                                                               
and without it cost to the customer increases.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:02:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   HERRON  inquired   as  to   what  has   surprised  and                                                               
disappointed Commissioner Notti in  his two years as commissioner                                                               
of DCCED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER NOTTI  related that he  was surprised to  learn that                                                               
the Department  of Commerce  didn't have  an economist  on staff,                                                               
which meant  that information had  to be sought  throughout state                                                               
government.   An economist  is now  on staff and  the plan  is to                                                               
compile data  related to business  in Alaska in order  that there                                                               
is one source of information.   The disappointment, he specified,                                                               
is that DCCED has one deputy commissioner who is overworked.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:05:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MUNOZ  then called  Mr. Black  forward and  reviewed his                                                               
background,  highlighting  that  he   has  led  the  department's                                                               
efforts  for affordable  fuel  for  rural communities,  municipal                                                               
revenue  sharing, planning  and  coordination  of assistance  for                                                               
flood  and  erosion,  threatened   communities,  and  rural  land                                                               
ownership issues in our smaller communities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:06:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL BLACK,  Deputy Commissioner, Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
Department  of   Commerce,  Community,  &   Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED),  first  noted  he  has   been  with  the  Department  of                                                               
Commerce,  Community,  &  Economic  Development  (DCCED)  for  28                                                               
years.    He  said  his   background  includes  local  government                                                               
assistance  and community  planning, primarily  in rural  Alaska,                                                               
along with  economic development  programs.   He was  director of                                                               
the  former  Division of  Community  Advocacy  which is  now  the                                                               
Division  of Community  and  Regional Affairs.    Now, as  deputy                                                               
commissioner  of   the  Department  of  Commerce,   Community,  &                                                               
Economic Development  (DCCED), he  has the assignment  of various                                                               
boards  as well  as the  responsibility for  economic development                                                               
and rural issues.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACK related  that the  department's  staff is  interested,                                                               
engaged, and energetic,  and deals with many issues.   However, a                                                               
great deal  of time is  required just  to understand even  one of                                                               
these issues,  he said, and at  times it is like  being a fireman                                                               
running from one crisis to another.   The department plays a role                                                               
in rural energy  issues primarily through loan  programs, such as                                                               
the  bulk  fuel  bridge  loan program,  he  explained.    Besides                                                               
financing there  is also the  problem of management, such  as the                                                               
ordering  and  delivering of  fuel.    Therefore,  it is  a  good                                                               
marriage to have the Division  of Community and Regional Affairs'                                                               
local government assistance program  working with the Division of                                                               
Investments' loan  program.   This gives  the department  a broad                                                               
view of  problems.   The efforts of  the Alaska  Energy Authority                                                               
(AEA) in developing an energy  plan and the Renewable Energy Fund                                                               
are  encouraging  opportunities,  he added,  and  the  department                                                               
looks forward  to allowing  Alaska's communities  to get  off the                                                               
roller  coaster  of  oil  energy prices.    Because  its  various                                                               
divisions assist  communities on  economic and other  issues, the                                                               
Department of Commerce, Community,  & Economic Development is the                                                               
frontline defense  for ensuring that Alaska's  communities remain                                                               
viable and able to endure various circumstances.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:12:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACK  said  he  and  Commissioner  Notti  are  involved  in                                                               
Governor  Palin's   recently  created  Rural  Subcabinet.     The                                                               
subcabinet is  responsible for examining rural  issues and making                                                               
recommendations to  the governor  and legislature.   For example,                                                               
the subcabinet  is working with  First Alaskans to  determine the                                                               
root cause of  migration [from rural communities  to urban areas]                                                               
and a  report is expected soon.   He said the  department is also                                                               
participating  in  the  Climate  Change  Subcabinet,  and  he  is                                                               
serving as  Co-Chair of  the Immediate  Action Workgroup  that is                                                               
looking at  the most critical needs  and actions that need  to be                                                               
taken by the State  of Alaska in the next 12-18  months.  Much of                                                               
that involves  communities threatened  by eroding,  flooding, and                                                               
melting permafrost.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACK  conveyed that DCCED  works with various  industries on                                                               
the  various   economic  issues   and  the  Office   of  Economic                                                               
Development will be reporting to  the legislature on the state of                                                               
those industries.  He noted  that revenue sharing is an important                                                               
part of  the department's  assistance to  local governments.   In                                                               
addition to  state funds, this  revenue sharing  includes federal                                                               
money,  such  as federal  forest  receipts.   The  department  is                                                               
currently  administering   about  $900   million  in   grants  to                                                               
communities.  He said hot  topics include energy, cost of living,                                                               
sustainability of  communities, climate  change, and  how climate                                                               
change  issues  affect  communities, individuals,  and  industry.                                                               
Also of  interest to DCCED,  he continued, are  the opportunities                                                               
that climate  change might  represent in  terms of  economics and                                                               
transportation.   The  federal government  is very  interested in                                                               
Arctic   issues  which   include  resources   and  transportation                                                               
infrastructure in  Alaska.  For  example, he continued,  the U.S.                                                               
Coast  Guard has  pointed out  that there  are no  safe ports  in                                                               
Alaska  for large  vessels coming  through the  Northwest Passage                                                               
and  this could  possibly be  a part  of the  forthcoming federal                                                               
stimulus package.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:19:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  remarked that he  and the three  other committee                                                               
members  from Southcentral  Alaska look  forward to  hearing from                                                               
the  director of  the Alaska  Energy  Authority at  a later  date                                                               
because their districts are all  impacted by energy.  He inquired                                                               
as to  what DCCED  is doing  to assist in  the dialogue  with the                                                               
Alaska  Railroad Corporation  and Flint  Hills Resources  ("Flint                                                               
Hills").                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACK responded  that the  primary discussion  regarding the                                                               
Flint Hills refinery  has been through the  Department of Natural                                                               
Resources  and the  governor's office,  although  DCCED has  been                                                               
involved  with the  discussions  through the  community of  North                                                               
Pole and the  Fairbanks North Star Borough.  He  noted that DCCED                                                               
has pointed out the economic  importance of that refinery and its                                                               
relationship  to fuel  supplies,  especially  in Western  Alaska.                                                               
Additionally,  his department  has  brought the  concerns of  the                                                               
municipality   of   North   Pole   to  the   attention   of   the                                                               
administration regarding the relationship  of the refinery to the                                                               
waste water  treatment facilities that  North Pole operates.   He                                                               
said that  without those waste  water treatment  facilities being                                                               
upgraded,  the   refinery  itself   may  not  meet   the  state's                                                               
environmental  standards.   So,  there are  issues  that are  not                                                               
always  on the  surface  that  might put  at  risk the  company's                                                               
ability to continue to operate that refinery.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:21:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  asked whether  there should be  a return  to the                                                               
two previously separate departments:   Department of Commerce and                                                               
Department of Community and Regional Affairs.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACK replied  that  he often  thinks  about that  question,                                                               
given  he worked  for the  Department of  Community and  Regional                                                               
Affairs (DCRA)  before the merger.   He said the main  mission of                                                               
DCRA was  to focus  on rural  issues.   It had  a broad  array of                                                               
programs that addressed  a wide range of issues -  such as labor,                                                               
housing, energy, and  local government assistance -  as an entire                                                               
package.    However, DCRA  was  the  weakest and  most  difficult                                                               
department  to  get resources  to  and  thus the  department  was                                                               
always  crying for  more  assistance and  resources.   For  rural                                                               
Alaska, DCRA  represented a  one-stop shop  up until  the merger.                                                               
"We found it  easier to certainly get our  budget requests passed                                                               
through this legislature  as the Department of  Commerce, not the                                                               
Department  of Community  and  Regional Affairs,"  he  said.   He                                                               
offered his opinion  that the Department of  Commerce brings with                                                               
it a  broader array  of interests  in all  sectors of  the state,                                                               
whereas  the Department  of Community  and  Regional Affairs  was                                                               
looked at, rightfully, as the rural department.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:24:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  inquired whether  the department  has been                                                               
looking at more  aggressive efforts to include  the university in                                                               
climate  change  work so  that  Alaska  could  take the  lead  in                                                               
research on global polar issues.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACK answered  that the efforts being  organized under DCCED                                                               
on  the climate  change strategy  for  the state  of Alaska  have                                                               
major  involvement of  various departments  of the  University of                                                               
Alaska.   The DCCED is  not relying  solely on the  University of                                                               
Alaska  because there  are many  other universities  here in  the                                                               
state actively  involved in looking  at Arctic issues.   However,                                                               
he said  he believes  that this effort  in developing  a strategy                                                               
for  the state  has  elevated awareness  that  the University  of                                                               
Alaska, Fairbanks  is actively involved  in much of  the research                                                               
that DCCED will rely upon.   In addition to the university, there                                                               
are other research organizations within  the state.  For example,                                                               
the Cold Climate Housing Research  Center has been engaged in the                                                               
discussion  on how  to deal  with permafrost  melting and  energy                                                               
efficiency.   He  said he  believes  the university  has a  grand                                                               
opportunity  because "we  are the  point of  the spear  in Arctic                                                               
issues."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:28:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  requested a copy  of the outline  for Mr.                                                               
Black's  discussion.   She asked  whether Mr.  Black is  based in                                                               
Juneau and, if not, how long is he here.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BLACK responded  that he  lives in  Representative Gardner's                                                               
district and  is not based  in Juneau,  although he is  in Juneau                                                               
for the majority of session.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  offered his  appreciation to  Commissioner Notti                                                               
and Mr.  Black for their  comments and  said he looks  forward to                                                               
working with them and the committee on all of these issues.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:30:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACK, at the request of Co-Chair Munoz, introduced                                                                         
department staff in attendance.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MUNOZ thanked Mr. Black for his presentation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:34:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee meeting was                                                                   
adjourned at 9:34 a.m.                                                                                                          

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